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karl rove is the voice of sanity in the republican party. i can't repeat it, but you get my drift. i know you at home are probably thinking to yourself. that jennifer granholm, she has gone off the deepened, it's a good thing it's her last night. but here's why and you'll know i'm right. karl rove who knows the only way republicans can win elections is if they nominate moderate, which is a relevant term in the republican party. and then you have the tea party wing with candidate like todd aiken, and we saw how that turned out. here to discuss it is michelle bernard p president of the bernard center. thank you so much for being here on my last night in "the war room." >> absolutely. >> jennifer: glad to have you. back me up here. tell everyone at home why i'm right about karl rove. >> you know what, i know--i know that your viewers are thinking that you have lost t but you're absolutely--you're absolutely right. i will tell you this as someone i have met karl rove on more than one occasion, and i know his reputation of being darth vader. but if you look at the statements he a making
karl rove is the voice of sanity in the republican party. i can't repeat it, but you get my drift. i know you at home are probably thinking to yourself. that jennifer granholm, she has gone off the deepened, it's a good thing it's her last night. but here's why and you'll know i'm right. karl rove who knows the only way republicans can win elections is if they nominate moderate, which is a relevant term in the republican party. and then you have the tea party wing with candidate like todd...
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realized that karl rove redistributed their wealth. there will be a wider appeal in the extreme candidate even though they don't all think that rape victims should be entitled to an abortion. do you think rove should win with this using the same ideology with a different hat? >> it depends on if your definition of win is "make more money." you said it yourself. he woke up that morning with a lot of explaining to do. the his explanation was that we have to push back against the todd aiken and grover norquist. you do this by you giving me money and i buy up a lot of air time etc. i can understand the impetus but karl rove, basically he's a snake oil salesman and this was the eastest easiest thing for him to sell. the party is in big trouble. what appeals to the constituents in these districts does not appeal to a broad swath of americans. karl rove is finding the angle in which to make a lot of money and i suspect he will win in that regard. >> john: he takes their money and bernie madeff sands in awe. sam seder and joe williams, thank y
realized that karl rove redistributed their wealth. there will be a wider appeal in the extreme candidate even though they don't all think that rape victims should be entitled to an abortion. do you think rove should win with this using the same ideology with a different hat? >> it depends on if your definition of win is "make more money." you said it yourself. he woke up that morning with a lot of explaining to do. the his explanation was that we have to push back against the...
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here's what republican joe scarborough said today about karl rove. >> is karl rove right that you got to be gatekeepers? people who are like party chairs, big fund raisers? >> course. i don't know that karl rove after his performance in 2012 should be the gatekeeper. he was inside the bubble as much as anybody else. >> ari, i'm not neutral on this because like the ad said, i am an obama following radical hollywood liberal. when they say that about ashley judd, i'm really hurt. >> well, you booked the right guest. we have that in common. >> ashley judd, look at this ppp poll of kentucky voters, ashley judd at 43%, mitch mcconnell at 47%. now, what that means is mitch mcconnell is in grave trouble. as you know, ari, an incumbent is supposed to poll over 50%, usually significantly over 50%. whenever they poll before bee low 50 they're in grave trouble. the presumption is if the election was held literally today, the undecideds would go to the challenger ashley judd. she's a shoe-in, is what i'm saying. >> there's a lot of time but there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell has a problem here.
here's what republican joe scarborough said today about karl rove. >> is karl rove right that you got to be gatekeepers? people who are like party chairs, big fund raisers? >> course. i don't know that karl rove after his performance in 2012 should be the gatekeeper. he was inside the bubble as much as anybody else. >> ari, i'm not neutral on this because like the ad said, i am an obama following radical hollywood liberal. when they say that about ashley judd, i'm really hurt....
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karl rove attacks ashley judd again. and bieber mania is alive and well here at 30 rock in new york city. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the northeastern portion of the united states is still recovering from the devastation of sandy, and tonight the region is being hit by another powerful storm. the massive nor'easter could be one of the worst in history. well, you've got governors declaring states of emergency in new york, connecticut, and massachusetts, along with rhode island and maine. in boston, the city is the epicenter of two storms which could break boston's all-time snowstorm record of 27.6 inches. up and down the northeastern coast, between 1 and 3 feet of snow is expected to fall. forecasters warned of blizzard conditions including wind gusts of up to 75 miles per hour. this could cause widespread power outages this evening. the national guard was activated in states of connecticut, massachusetts, new york, of course to help with emergenc
karl rove attacks ashley judd again. and bieber mania is alive and well here at 30 rock in new york city. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the northeastern portion of the united states is still recovering from the devastation of sandy, and tonight the region is being hit by another powerful storm. the massive nor'easter could be one of the worst in history. well, you've got governors declaring states of emergency...
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that's kind of how i view karl rove. i don't think he is done. i think he still has too many connections. >> i'll concede. ed, i will concede when i wrote the kicker to that piece and made that statement, you know, if you take that in isolation, it sounds pretty conclusive and final. i know karl viewed it that way. but i take your point. >> quickly, howard, how unpopular is mitch mcconnell in kentucky? could he be in trouble? >> well, put it this way -- first all, the republican base doesn't really like him. partly because he is from louisville. partly because he is an insider in washington. he has never been wildly popular
that's kind of how i view karl rove. i don't think he is done. i think he still has too many connections. >> i'll concede. ed, i will concede when i wrote the kicker to that piece and made that statement, you know, if you take that in isolation, it sounds pretty conclusive and final. i know karl viewed it that way. but i take your point. >> quickly, howard, how unpopular is mitch mcconnell in kentucky? could he be in trouble? >> well, put it this way -- first all, the...
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it turns out karl rove and mitch mcconnell are really, really afraid of ashley judd. >> is karl rove right, you have to be gate keepers? not you because you're not in the position but people like party chairs, fund-raisers? >> of course they are. but i don't know that karl rove, after his performance in 2012, should be the gate keeper. >> if some people think the best we can do is todd mourdoch -- excuse me, todd aiken and richard mourdoch, they're wrong. >> you made some mistakes but everybody makes mistakes. >> but he's already actually spending money, trying to stop one democrat from running for senate. >> poor ashley judd, come on now. you're calling her -- making fun of her. >> this is the opening act. she has said a bunch of stuff that the people of kentucky when they hear about it are are not going to like it. want to explain her radical views that she's got and in the weeks and months ahead we'll continue to introduce those radical views to the people of kentucky. >> we have but a moment left, sam and ryan. is bush's brain actually shaken by the woman who played reed halsey i
it turns out karl rove and mitch mcconnell are really, really afraid of ashley judd. >> is karl rove right, you have to be gate keepers? not you because you're not in the position but people like party chairs, fund-raisers? >> of course they are. but i don't know that karl rove, after his performance in 2012, should be the gate keeper. >> if some people think the best we can do is todd mourdoch -- excuse me, todd aiken and richard mourdoch, they're wrong. >> you made...
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don't rely on a karl rove or reince priebus. the state chairman really has the opportunity to vet the candidates up front and to build the party from the bottom up and inviting those activists who are frustrated to be a part of the process. >> how do you democrats exploit this? we have the republican establishment disdainful of its right wing and trying to prevent it from getting any candidacies. >> how do we exploit it? >> yeah. >> you remember the old rule from lee atwater, when the opponent is self-destructing get out of the way. >> that goes back to napoleon. >> well lee atwater made it famous in our world. he's right. for the democrats, you watch these guys and you see on the one hand they've lost the middle which is great for the democratic party because everything they lose we pick up. on the other hand, they're attacking their base, which is going to result in not victories for moderate candidates who can win general elections, but it's going to result in right wing candidates getting their backs up, getting in these pri
don't rely on a karl rove or reince priebus. the state chairman really has the opportunity to vet the candidates up front and to build the party from the bottom up and inviting those activists who are frustrated to be a part of the process. >> how do you democrats exploit this? we have the republican establishment disdainful of its right wing and trying to prevent it from getting any candidacies. >> how do we exploit it? >> yeah. >> you remember the old rule from lee...
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you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talk, right? in f you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have allison there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that worked well for romney. here is the deal money can't buy you, authenticity. >> they're authentic, i hate to tell you. they're the real thing. >> they're authentic to the point where -- if you're authentic in your irrationality, great. you'll appeal to the irrational people. but when this guy says the earth was formed -- hold on. when the earth was formed 9,000 years ago and we started farming 10,000 years ago, it's insane. >> we have to come back to the fact that they have a base, that people like this have been elected. >> exactly. they have been. >> you know, i look at mourdock, he won. i like at akin,
you're karl rove. not a good guy necessarily, but a smart guy. you're haley barbour. you're chris christie, one of these thoughtful people in the republican party you can argue. how are you going to stop these people from running if fay want to? >> cash. >> how do you stop them if they have money behind them? >> money talk, right? in f you don't want this guy to win and you've got the koch brothers and you have allison there, that's why they have a pac, right? >> that...
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we will get answers from karl rove and joe troop. [ male announcer ] coughequence™ #8. waking the baby. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male announcer ] how about v8 v-fusion. a full serving of vegetables, a full serving of fruit. but what you taste is the fruit. so even you... could've had a v8. [ ship horn blows ] no, no, no! stop! humans. one day we're coming up with the theory of relativity, the next... not so much. but that's okay -- you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. learn about it at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >> a politically polarized washington is making noise about a bipartisan effort to fix the nation's immigration system.
we will get answers from karl rove and joe troop. [ male announcer ] coughequence™ #8. waking the baby. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male announcer ] how about v8 v-fusion. a full serving of vegetables, a full serving of fruit. but what you...
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. >> karl rove as the reformer. >> you're talking about karl rove? >> he built this thing. >> karl is trying to unwind what he wound. >> trying to prevent another meltdown. >> i think there will be bruising changes. >> they have a real problem. >> it is time for a new party to talk like adults, we have to stop being stupid party. >> we have the obligation to try. >> when the president heads to minneapolis. >> progress is possible. >> to talk about gun violence. >> universal background checks are universally supported. >> it is a fraud to call it universal. it will never be universal. law abiding people don't want that. >> the nra is now revealed as an insane organization. and that matters quite a lot. >> the senate is poised to take action on gun violence. >> i didn't vote on the assault weapons last time, it didn't make sense. >> this is an emergency, let's knock off the washington baloney. >> if there is anything we can do, we have an obligation to try. >> i'm ezra klein in for lawrence o'donnell tonight. richard luger was born in indianapolis in 1
. >> karl rove as the reformer. >> you're talking about karl rove? >> he built this thing. >> karl is trying to unwind what he wound. >> trying to prevent another meltdown. >> i think there will be bruising changes. >> they have a real problem. >> it is time for a new party to talk like adults, we have to stop being stupid party. >> we have the obligation to try. >> when the president heads to minneapolis. >> progress is...
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. >> john: when karl rove agrees with you you might want to question what you're doing. but 83% of americans approve of drones. why are people so quick to accept this as the best option and reluctant to question it? >> well, it's never going to happen to them. they're not a terrorist so therefore it doesn't affect them. you have the talking heads discussing this issue day after day, trying to tell the american public based on two cases that the president has the authority to do this. it gives the president no authority to do the types of things to here. so for the fall-back is the use of military force, it was a bill passed in 2011 and it was the green light to kill americans on foreign soil. it was vague crazy talk by a gaggle of drafters who saw the opportunity to obliterate the 14th amendment by erasing checks and balances and destroying any sense of transparency. this was their opportunity john, to rush in, and obliterate the constitution even beyond what we saw down with gitmo and it was deplorable. >> john: mike, i respect people who say that this is how wars are g
. >> john: when karl rove agrees with you you might want to question what you're doing. but 83% of americans approve of drones. why are people so quick to accept this as the best option and reluctant to question it? >> well, it's never going to happen to them. they're not a terrorist so therefore it doesn't affect them. you have the talking heads discussing this issue day after day, trying to tell the american public based on two cases that the president has the authority to do...
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rove's support of that yesterday so that's really no surprise i think the reason that this is going down so easy for so many americans why you have americans say of course we just need to use drones at every chance we get to assassinate people is because the rest of the story hasn't been thought out how do we prevent terror groups or drug cartels or insane misfits from using drones against the united states on united states soil drones in enemy hands are going to be the headlines and how they attacked the u.s. with those drones that's going to be the headlines in about two years because the arms industrial complex will never pass up the opportunity to sell their two foot long you know three pound killing machines to saudi princes who are then going to deliver them to the same kind of saudi terrorist freaks who bombed the twin twin towers so it's almost like we're saying this is happening over there in there's been no discussion even the media is not asking the question are congressmen are not asking the questions you've got america's largest weapons manufacturer going to be looking
rove's support of that yesterday so that's really no surprise i think the reason that this is going down so easy for so many americans why you have americans say of course we just need to use drones at every chance we get to assassinate people is because the rest of the story hasn't been thought out how do we prevent terror groups or drug cartels or insane misfits from using drones against the united states on united states soil drones in enemy hands are going to be the headlines and how they...
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i think you'll see, you know, the new karl rove group, as you will, the new conservative party influence recruitment of candidates that speak across -- you know, that appeal to a broader group of people. >> right. >> but the point here, i think there's sort of three things. you mentioned this. there's people in candidate recruitment, right? which is like don't recruit people who say wildly offensive things about rape, that is a new principle for candidate recruitment. then there's the ideal center of where the party is and then there's the tactical choices made about cooperation. >> do you think there's changes at one and three, but not a lot of changes at two. >> so i want to talk about which of those three things are changing after we take this break. ladybug body milk? no thanks. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. it's so powerful you can skip a day... but light enough you won't want to. dermatologist recommended eucerin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eu
i think you'll see, you know, the new karl rove group, as you will, the new conservative party influence recruitment of candidates that speak across -- you know, that appeal to a broader group of people. >> right. >> but the point here, i think there's sort of three things. you mentioned this. there's people in candidate recruitment, right? which is like don't recruit people who say wildly offensive things about rape, that is a new principle for candidate recruitment. then there's...
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the question is can they resolve it, whether or not it is karl rove or any other group? can they resolve it in the next two years, if they lose in the next mid-terms they will be in a whole world of pain going into the next presidential election. it will be fascinating to watch. >> joy reid, richard wolff, thank you for joining us tonight. >>> and the flop, there was one in the speech tonight. and who has better comedy writers? david letterman? the only republican who is not afraid of dave. and in the rewrite, fox news is re-writing the pundits and getting rid of the people who have never been right about anything ever. we'll give you the greatest hits of "fox news" greatest losers coming up in a bit. how do you keep an older car running like new? you ask a ford customer. when they tell you that you need your oil changed you got to bring it in. if your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. jackie, tell me why somebody should bring they're car here to the ford dealership for service instead of any one of those other places out there. they are going
the question is can they resolve it, whether or not it is karl rove or any other group? can they resolve it in the next two years, if they lose in the next mid-terms they will be in a whole world of pain going into the next presidential election. it will be fascinating to watch. >> joy reid, richard wolff, thank you for joining us tonight. >>> and the flop, there was one in the speech tonight. and who has better comedy writers? david letterman? the only republican who is not...
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and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are here every day. good morning, jacki schechner. >> i want a sherry's berries gift card. >> stephanie: hey, john kasick just undouched himself. he is going to accept the obama medicare medicaid expansion. >> amazing. i love when governors and lawmakers do things that actually benefit the citizens of they state. >> stephanie: right. the only reason not to do it jacki is you are a douche. >> pretty much. and you want to be like rick scott. >> stephanie: it's a technical term, douche. here she is jacki schechner health care geek of the current news center. >> good morning, everybody, presi
and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are...
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the big question is why do they still have karl rove on the payroll? into that and a whole lot more on the "full court press." first we get the latest, today's current news update, standing by in los angeles, here's lisa ferguson. hi lisa, good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. chuck hagel will have to wait a little while longer before take up his new position as secretary of defense. the senate armed services committee had hoped to hold a vote as soon as today but now that's being delayed. after last week's hearing republicans say they want more information on hagel's speeches and his financial disclosures. until then they are opposing the vote but the committee chair is still hoping to schedule one as soon as possible. in idaho, a republican state senator is introducing a bit of an obscure bill requiring every single high school student to read ayn rand's novel. when asked why he chose that particular book, senator john getty said it because it made his son become a republican. he said it gives high schools an alternative way to adopt grad
the big question is why do they still have karl rove on the payroll? into that and a whole lot more on the "full court press." first we get the latest, today's current news update, standing by in los angeles, here's lisa ferguson. hi lisa, good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. chuck hagel will have to wait a little while longer before take up his new position as secretary of defense. the senate armed services committee had hoped to hold a vote as soon as today but...
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karl rove going to be on the broadcast tomorrow night. he wants to set up some kind of organization to urge republicans to be a little bit more moderate. that has teed okay some tea party and right wing radio people. has that filtered in to the political system in washington? are they listening to that debate or is it just a media thing? >> it's definitely a lot of the media thing. also a little bit different. what mr. rove and his group would say it's not about finding more moderate candidates but about finding candidates that can win elections. the g.o.p. lost last year and they're regrouping. this isn't all that new for either party. exactly what democrats have gone through when they have been defeated and republicans have held the white house. the rnc and outside groups like roves crossroads g.p.s. what they want to do is recruit candidates not only win conservative primaries but also win a general election as well. >> everybody wants to do that there has got to be some kind of change in the republican party, i think. >> crossroads, s
karl rove going to be on the broadcast tomorrow night. he wants to set up some kind of organization to urge republicans to be a little bit more moderate. that has teed okay some tea party and right wing radio people. has that filtered in to the political system in washington? are they listening to that debate or is it just a media thing? >> it's definitely a lot of the media thing. also a little bit different. what mr. rove and his group would say it's not about finding more moderate...
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rove's support of that yesterday so that's really no surprise i think the reason that this is going down so easy for so many americans why you have americans say of course we just need to use drones at every chance we get to assassinate people is because the rest of the story hasn't been thought out how do we prevent terror groups or drug cartels or insane misfits from using drones against the united states on united states soil drones in enemy hands are going to be the headlines and how they attacked the u.s. with those drones that's going to be the headlines in about two years because the arms industrial complex will never pass up the opportunity to sell their two foot long you know three pound killing machines to saudi princes who are then going to deliver them to the same kind of saudi terrorist freaks who bombed the twin twin towers so it's almost like we're saying this is happening over there in there's been no discussion even that the media is not asking the question our congressmen are not asking the questions you've got america's largest weapons manufacturer going to be loo
rove's support of that yesterday so that's really no surprise i think the reason that this is going down so easy for so many americans why you have americans say of course we just need to use drones at every chance we get to assassinate people is because the rest of the story hasn't been thought out how do we prevent terror groups or drug cartels or insane misfits from using drones against the united states on united states soil drones in enemy hands are going to be the headlines and how they...
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one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of step that makes sense if you want to elect republicans. but the problem is with the dominance of the tea party types, the religious right, and a lot of these states you're going to see more republican nominees who are going to lose winnable races. rove wants to change that, although he is the one who contributed to creating it at almost every level over a long period of years. >> eugene robinson, bob shrum, great to have you on the program tonight. thank you so much for joining us. >>> remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the scr
one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of...
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does the new group draw a clear line in the sand between karl rove and the tea party? >> clearly, there are very significant divisions between these forces within the republican party, and i think the argument that the conservatives are making is that it's not just these very right wing candidates that lost. the republicans, a lot of the mainstream party-backed candidates lost, too. so i think that both of the asides within the debate are not coming to terms with the fundamental problems that republicans need to take on. alex, you reported that this new group said that it supports republicans like pat toomey, marco rubio, cruise. is rove the architect, is he as powerful as he once was, how much would his group actually matter? >> craig, i think that will be the test of the next 6 to 12 months and i think there's been a lot of attention on karl rove individually and there's good reason for that. he's an important figure in the republican party and there's this sort of larger network of the people associated with crossroads and the former general counsel of the u.s. cham
does the new group draw a clear line in the sand between karl rove and the tea party? >> clearly, there are very significant divisions between these forces within the republican party, and i think the argument that the conservatives are making is that it's not just these very right wing candidates that lost. the republicans, a lot of the mainstream party-backed candidates lost, too. so i think that both of the asides within the debate are not coming to terms with the fundamental problems...